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Overuse of Flint and Steel

Do you think the amount of uses a flint and steel has should be reduced?


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Kminer56

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Hi, I'm Kminr, or Kminer56 as some people would know me.

I don't play much MCSG these days, but it struck me when playing today that FnS is used a lot. At least half of the players I fight will not commit themselves to a fight against me unless I am on fire. When I was a much more active MCSG player, I always thought it was "pathetic" somewhere in the back of my head, which I know realize is completely ridiculous. FnS has four uses, and are found frequently in chests, so it's almost impractical to NOT use it before every single fight. I'm not arguing against the existence of FnS, but I really think that the amount of uses, or occurrences in chests should be lowered. I can't even count how many times in my three years of playing MCSG I've had to run from a fight or delay an engagement in a fight because I have to drain someone's FnS or wait for the fire to stop burning because I will certainly die otherwise. If FnS only had, say, one use, people would still be able to take advantage of it, and it would also, I feel, level out the balance of weapons. Right now, FnS is a very dominant weapon. One might even argue that it has more value than a weak sword if used correctly. I feel like the sword should be the most dominant weapon, with the bow and rod trailing, and FnS should be strategically involved in a minor way that can still have some significance during a fight. I feel like Minecraft is designed imperfectly, in terms of PvP, but FnS, in a much smaller capacity than the current state, balances everything out to make it a great competitive game.

I'm completely open to, in fact I would appreciate people replying with their opinions. I would love to hear reasons on why you agree, or disagree with what I've said.
 

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You've got good points, but I think the FnS should stay like it is, the key to not getting lit on fire is dodging the fire, so if you can do that it shouldn't be a problem.

I think it would be OK if it was three uses, but I think four is a good enough amount.
 

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You've got good points, but I think the FnS should stay like it is, the key to not getting lit on fire is dodging the fire, so if you can do that it shouldn't be a problem.

I think it would be OK if it was three uses, but I think four is a good enough amount.
I somewhat agree with you. Dodging FnS and things like that should be strategically necessary, but I think it is far too prominent right now. You have to dedicate far too much thought and time into dealing with the fire.
 

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Blame huahwi.

Literally fns is over used due to it being such an op item. But In that respect, dodging fns is incredibly easy once you've played a few thousand games, but if everyone wanted to reduce the charges on fns or some other change I'm in for it.
 

Kminer56

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Blame huahwi.

Literally fns is over used due to it being such an op item.
Agreed. And yeah, I guess you could blame Huahwi, but sooner or later someone who had realized the value of FnS would have informed the community somehow, as Huahwi did with his videos.
 

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I agree, FnS is a bit overused. It is quite annoying at times when you're trying to chase someone who only wants to watch you burn.

I am not the best with FnS, so I tend not to use it very often, so I know where you and all the others that find them annoying are coming from. I feel like, the people who are actually good at it, would completely disagree and say "It's not annoying" but thats just an opinion. Me personally being an old MCSG player where you would literally only bow, and sword fight. People hardly ever used FnS or rods like they do now. Sure there were a few who did, but it wasn't overused like they are now.

I completely suck at fighting people how use FnS because i'm still use to the old days where it was all run in, and get as many hits as possible. Oh how the times have changed. Oh well, its all in good fun!
 

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I agree, FnS is a bit overused. It is quite annoying at times when you're trying to chase someone who only wants to watch you burn.

I am not the best with FnS, so I tend not to use it very often, so I know where you and all the others that find them annoying are coming from. I feel like, the people who are actually good at it, would completely disagree and say "It's not annoying" but thats just an opinion. Me personally being an old MCSG player where you would literally only bow, and sword fight. People hardly ever used FnS or rods like they do now. Sure there were a few who did, but it wasn't overused like they are now.

I completely suck at fighting people how use FnS because i'm still use to the old days where it was all run in, and get as many hits as possible. Oh how the times have changed. Oh well, its all in good fun!
july 2014

old mcsg player

ok
 

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Blame huahwi.

Literally fns is over used due to it being such an op item. But In that respect, dodging fns is incredibly easy once you've played a few thousand games, but if everyone wanted to reduce the charges on fns or some other change I'm in for it.
Huuaaaaaaaahwi is god
 

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july 2014

old mcsg player

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No no no, Im talking early 2013. I wasn't big on the forums. I literally played with IRL's all day. I had no clue that there was even a website for the server at the time. lmao.
 

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