What MCSG can bring back. What were the mistakes. Memories?

MCSG Has gone downhill ever since we saw the non-present owner Chad.... if you are going to run a server actually get on it. This server will probably close, so I pretty much wasted 80 dollars on a rank, thanks chad for your great motivation with the server #BESTOWNER2K16

Param said:

My biggest suggestion to MCSG in all honestly would be to merge with Badlion. Kohi is officially merging with Badlion in order to maximize pvp. Badlion gets 5k+ people on average and now kohi players aswell. If MCSG were to merge with badlion magically, they could benefit from large amount of players, extra staff help and clans would blow up. It's just mcsg ncp would have to transfer to badlion. MCSG would gain some things they haven't achieved in the past 4 years, 5k+ players, a good anticheat, staff who can actually find hacks. It would be fun.

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Such a good idea. Badlion is taking over, it's the least MCSG can do. (and there'd be an AU again). The way they handle bans is so well done, I mean, almost 500K people are banned on there

As for why MCSG is dying, I personally think it's the lack of transparency between the staff and players and their anticheat.
Chad can't even come online to say ANYTHING about the whole AU situation. He hasn't been online since he made the post which is quickly becoming mcgamer's most replied thread.

Which brings me to the Antvenom merge and the whole "MCGamer" thing. They gained almost NOTHING out of it (in terms of players/fame.) Antvenom honestly didn't even give a single Good (edit: omg they actually censored that, I'll put feces instead) about mcsg when they merged. And because his server was mostly aimed at kids, MCG started (somewhat) aiming their server at his non existent playerbase. In turn, they added so many pointless gamemodes which basically no one plays. Wasted money. They even tried to join the UHC fad, which Badlion had already capitalised off of.

And they never listened to us about it. I only recently came back after leaving in late 2014, and I have to say, nothing has improved. Even back then we thought the new gamemodes were pointless and boring. You built your server around one gamemode, don't try to become something which your players don't want to play.

Because I was gone for 2015, I can't say anything from experience about the forced 1.8 switch and how long it took them to revert back to 1.7. But I know how crap 1.8/9 pvp is and it's sad that such a competitive server didn't.

Badlion is taking over. Why? Because it understands and listens to its playerbase. I made a bug report thread on there about how Zone 85 crashed the AU SG servers. An OWNER replied, tagging a dev, who then fixed it. If I posted a similar thread here, at most a mod would SEE it, and it's even less of a chance for them to actually bother to reply to it.

Don't get me wrong, some of the staff here are amazing. They do their job well. But for others, mod seems to be more of a title.

Just talking about the mods will probably get this post deleted. And frankly mods, if you do, you're only reinforcing my point; censorship on the forums and in game. You act like your playerbase is 9 years old, censoring any word you consider 'bad'. This brings back to what I said about aiming their server at the wrong people. Badlion doesn't filter anything (directly through chat); but they have chatmods. Mods who monitor the chat. And it works so well. Having such a toxic community, these are essential. I mean, look at their punishments page. They've almost given out a million punishments, mostly mutes, not bans. No one should be banned for swearing indirectly in chat. But instead, here you are perm banning people who voice their opinion about a mod lightly. No joke.

I had a friend in 2014 (mind you, he already had a warning or two for a similar reason, but even those were completely false) who called a mod something which he didn't like. I was in the game with him, and from what I can remember, it wasn't even that bad. Halfway through the game he got PERM BANNED. When he tried to appeal, they found a screenshot of him saying 'mcsg sucks' in chat as a joke, and because the word 'sucks' was censored, they thought he was saying something else (which wouldn't have been that bad anyway lmao) and rejected it. Sure Badlion will mute you for saying their server sucks, but it's usually a light punishment to keep the chat clean. It's only a ban if you're repetitively encouraging suicide or something as serious as that (even then, I'm pretty sure it's a perm mute).

I promise this is my last point. I've wanted to write this essay ever since I came back haha.

MCSG can't adapt. The pvp community has changed so much since I left, in terms of skill, plays, etc. I really can't say much here, but ultimately this is what will bring the server to the ground. As much as I hate to say that.

tl;dr: Lack of staff transparency, censorship, antvenom merge, they can't adapt, they don't listen to their players, they aim their server at the wrong people, their anticheat, and ultimately their struggle to adapt are what are bringing the server down.

ok, I swear this is my last point this time.

So, I can rant about it all I want, but the real question asked here was how they can fix it. And honestly, they've gone too far. They can try, but the removal of AU was bigger than a lot of people made it out to be. It showed how much chad himself cares about the server nowadays, as sad as that is.
I made a list of ways they could attempt to fix it (to save time and space lmao)
- Remove all your pointless gamemodes. No one plays them, they waste so much of your declining budget.
- Stop censoring everything, get some chatmods. Let us swear, just as long as we aren't trying to offend anyone. We aren't kids, believe it or not.
- Ask for help from the community. You're obviously in trouble right now, and you aren't asking the easiest source for help. If you had asked us to either fund or find new servers for AU, the community would have been more than happy to do that. Don't leave us in the dark;
- Become more transparent. I know the mods were starting to get better last year (from what I can see), but especially Chad.
- Last resort; merge with Badlion. Honestly I think this is where we're almost headed. You stand no chance against them. You tried to steal the UHC craze from them, and you failed. Now they're about to steal your gamemode from you. I dislike Badlion SG, but it's all I have to play. MCSG could live on as SG on Badlion. I know that sounds ridiculous to you; you've always wanted to be independent. But you've messed up and this is really the only way to stay alive.

Thanks for reading this thousand word essay, but I've wanted to express my feelings for a while. There is a small chance for MCSG in the future, but at this rate, I don't see many good things.

The sad truth is that no one important will mostly likely read this thread, but whatever. At least I can copy and paste this somewhere else if I need to.

I won't talk about my memories right now (I'm not a pessimist ok) because this thread is wayy too long, but I will say that I love this server. I don't want it to die, and the threat of Badlion is pretty scary. I have so many memories of 2014 and I would love to relive that now that I have returned.

Again, thanks for reading and let's hope this server can go back to its peak.

the worst mistake was removing AU and chad being inactive im starting to really hate chad a he is inactive and then tells us AU is gone hes all in it for the money its just BS i hope chad resigns because he doesnt deserve owner anymore

Honestly, some of the things up there contributed to player loss. I remember when YouTubers used to care about the server, and now nearly none do. They used to be very active, and do lots of public events. Pyr, you're definitely one of the more active YouTubers, but people like CreeperFarts, Grapeapplesauce, etc. have stopped almost completely playing the game, leading to subs playing the servers/games they do.

alright here we go

new manager/owner
1v1 ranked and duels
new hub
lower youtube rank requirements, will encourage youtubers to play on the server s more if they feel special
make hacking first offense temporary
make uhc worlds 1.7 compatible

yeah that would be a good start C:

shadowblaze12 said:

it got old for me :/ 10 hearting kids like stroller and Jccandfriends

love you huahwi

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I MEAN................

I don't have a whole lot to add to what chrisfire56 had to say. I have been playing mcsg for almost 4 years now... and frankly have invested a bit over 200 dollars total on the server. I sadly feel that things are going downhill because of simple issues that are largely easy to fix. I think that if we had enough people with the motivation and the power to help we could do this easily, but the prospects for that just get worse and worse every day. Tagging Yannick GoontherMC and Athenaa Joey | Feiyr because I think you guys are some of the best staff members in here, and I think that you should take some time to read what chrisfire had to say earlier. I'm not saying necessarily that MCGamer should abandon it's essentials,.. but he makes a lot of valid points. I really want MCSG to stay around, and I really care about this server a great deal. I'm hoping we can make a difference and save things before it truly is too late, but I'm not sure if that's possible. I want to clarify that the one point I disagree on from earlier is the fact that it is too late to fix things. I think if we all help it could still change. <3

The whole problem isnt Chad, its just the gamemode. Survival Games gets boring, its repetitive, thats why all these old players are quitting and leaving, and as someone that has played this for over 2 years I have seen how boring it can get. Other gamemodes like Factions there is something new all the time, but the server cant just rely on survival games, because its dying. It was very popular when the server got popular, but now players that played then are leaving and the gamemode is dead. That being said though, if Chad and other staff members put in enough time and effort back into the server, changing up SG and adding new gamemodes giving us more variety it can definitely begin to grow again. It isnt an easy fix because the problem is the basis of the server and the server growth, but it can most likely be fixed even though it may take a while.

Aidan said:

The whole problem isnt Chad, its just the gamemode. Survival Games gets boring, its repetitive, thats why all these old players are quitting and leaving, and as someone that has played this for over 2 years I have seen how boring it can get. Other gamemodes like Factions there is something new all the time, but the server cant just rely on survival games, because its dying. It was very popular when the server got popular, but now players that played then are leaving and the gamemode is dead. That being said though, if Chad and other staff members put in enough time and effort back into the server, changing up SG and adding new gamemodes giving us more variety it can definitely begin to grow again. It isnt an easy fix because the problem is the basis of the server and the server growth, but it can most likely be fixed even though it may take a while.

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This has always been an issue, and always will be. But a lot of those people (including myself and some friends) have recently come back and some have even stayed. I can see what you're saying about adding new gamemodes, but that didn't work in the past. Honestly I think it just comes down to opinion.
Obviously some players haven't gotten bored.

This should have been done a long time ago, though. Sure the players themselves could also be at fault but there is definitely clear evidence that chad and the staff have played a major role here.

The last update we had was around Christmas, and MCSG's lead developer has just resigned. The real problem here is that this community (from experience) doesn't want new gamemodes. We come to play MCSG, and we play other gamemodes on other servers. UHC on Badlion, etc. That's what this server has been based on for a long time and I don't see a reason to change that unless they merge with a bigger server such as Badlion.

chrisfire56 said:

This has always been an issue, and always will be. But a lot of those people (including myself and some friends) have recently come back and some have even stayed. I can see what you're saying about adding new gamemodes, but that didn't work in the past. Honestly I think it just comes down to opinion.

This should have been done a long time ago, though. Sure the players themselves could also be at fault but there is definitely clear evidence that chad and the staff have played a major role here.

The last update we had was around Christmas, and MCSG's lead developer has just resigned. The real problem here is that this community (from experience) doesn't want new gamemodes. We come to play MCSG, and we play other gamemodes on other servers. UHC on Badlion, etc. That's what this server has been based on for a long time and I don't see a reason to change that unless they merge with a bigger server such as Badlion.

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Yea that is why I quit, I got bored. Its literally the most reptitive things. There should be a goal or something to motivate people to play more. Like a reward higher than just points or whatever, like maybe gold that you can cash in for prizes idk, or the top 10 players a week or every other week get a special rank. There should be motivation

Aidan said:

Yea that is why I quit, I got bored. Its literally the most reptitive things. There should be a goal or something to motivate people to play more. Like a reward higher than just points or whatever, like maybe gold that you can cash in for prizes idk, or the top 10 players a week or every other week get a special rank. There should be motivation

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I agree. But that's why there are other gamemodes on other servers. The motivation in the past has just been feeling good about yourself and becoming more popular. There's always things like clans and the community to keep it interesting

There are legit no updates. There's no hype to play... it's the same thing over and over when you don't have higher staff listening to what the community wants it's just going to eventually die. Chad hasn't been back since his announcement of taking AU down (which was his first time getting on in months, but he was only on for a day). I mean it's true that this game was based off hunger games and that we're not going to have the large amount of players that we had when the first two movies were out, but in the end is that really the problem? Also, where does our money from donor go to? Obviously none of it goes back into improving the server because we don't get any updates other than having regions removed.