Mini-Modding

[Freshly]

I hate when I see people getting abused for mini-modding. I agree with what you stated in your thread - it's really helpful when community members recognize our rules and try to make sure people abide by them. If things get out of hand though, its always best to get in contact with a staff member.

For all the people out there that find themselves being abused by the community for being a "mini-mod" just remember, this is a Minecraft community. In the end, we're all here to have fun. Don't be constantly on the lookout for people that are breaking rules but spend some time enjoying our platforms for other purposes. Also, it probably doesn't help to constantly announce that you're applying for moderator because then your intentions don't seem as genuine. ^.^

I totally agree. It's definitely frustrating to see messages on "Mini-mods" profiles saying "Oh, you're tryharding mod" "You're a tryhard" and I think it's kind of ridiculous. Everyone should be appreciative to have some helping hands throughout our platforms whenever a mod isn't available. Yes it is our job, but if someone happens to direct someone to the report abuse section or ban dispute section first then Hooray, I don't see nothing wrong. If you consider yourself a mini-mod, go ahead and try applying for mod. Do not be discouraged <3
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Side note, before I got mod, I was the extremeeeeee mini-mod. Report abuses, reporting TeamSpeak trolls, moderating hub chats (lol, I swear I was the best non-mod community member). My hold thing is, please do not give up, it may take MANY, MANY, MANY tries. But, don't give up..



- Jay c:

 

[Fox]

Oh god, not this topic.

This is really interesting for me, I think it's kairos to talk about the subject.
You see, what you said is full of nonsense. As far as the community, it makes sense and I have seen it, and gone through it. Yet, 'How staff sees this' is just nonsense.

For someone who has actually has helped without committing to a staff position —Not that I wasn't eligible, rather I abided to the fact that you do not need to commit to the staff position to help— it is nonsense; one of the things that I remember the most was getting bashed by Moderators telling me to stop, that they could do their job, and to stop stealing their job. And for all that, what you're saying is nonsense since I lived it, went through it and had to deal with it.

Definitely whether from the community as a whole, or just from the users, people who help—mini-mod—are bashed, disrespected and the list of adjectives goes on. And for all I know, the disrespect given towards some persons trying to help is not deserved by each individual; for the luck of these people, some make mini-modding annoying and troublesome, but that doesn't means that each and everyone of these contributors are doing more wrong than right.

For when I put my freedom and principles first over a staff position, people wouldn't go beyond the picture and understand my place. People wouldn't see that I legitimately was helping as (a) I had the knowledge, (b) some moderators don't use common sense, when the answer or situation has an solution, (c) it takes little to nothing to lend the hand to someone else. However, despite this, I suck up to it and learned to ignore these people; so after all they made me stronger and wiser regarding human behavior.

People need to stop prejudging people and take a second to stop, think, and thank for those who took a second to give a concrete, full reply. And even if there is a lot of scrounge and frivolity amongst these people that are tagged as, "mini-mods" they nonetheless took a second of their time, and whether the information is legit or not, you correct the person—mistakes are made, specially when you don't have the staff position itself.

Is mini-modding bad? Not at all! There is enough source of information given from staff now a days that everyone can do as much work as a member of Staff without the position itself. However, definitely this information could be handed out in different ways, e.g through renovating the Rules Thread in a whole new format emphasizing on the ban guidelines.

I think this is a no-no topic, and whether a Moderator made this thread or not, its really not needed; even if asked to not make drama, drama will come. Regardless, thread is here, and it is staying; eventually it would come, so whatever.

 

[SnoopSean]

And this is why, we need a Helper Rank, but enough of that, that is a topic for another time.

As for mini-modding, technically mini-modding is not what helping others out is. Mini-Modding is pretending to be a mod when you clearly aren't, and pretending to have that authority over someone else just because you're telling them the rules isn't right, now, I don't see that happen very much, but apparently it happens, so I'd like to address that.

For the people calling out others for being "tryhards", the point of moderators is to help out, I feel that there is an alienation between players and staff, that moderators are too big of a jump and so when a moderator steps in, the stage goes quiet and everyone holds back, I know that MCGamer has been trying to combat that (e.g. Ban Lists, Patch Notes, Announcements, and removing age requirements) but the community is creating a barrier that makes it seem like normal people can't do anything to help out, when really, it should be everyone pitching in, because that is what makes a community, some people just want it more than others, so they become a mod, some people don't want that commitment, which is another barrier which I will talk about another time, but they just want to help out anyways.

'Mini-Modding' call outs shouldn't be a thing, because for us to be a community, we all need to pitch in.

 

[Mirko]

What you said is right.
Being very helpful will bring you to be called "awesome" or "most helpful member" by some people, but you will also get called "tryhard" or things like that from other ones.
I can say this because I have already passed a moment like this, it was bad for me, I wasn't happy because people considered me for something that I'm not.
And now, after some months, I stopped being called a tryharder; how? Well, I tried to explain the community that if I stay online on the forums a lot and helping other member it's just because I like it, not totally because I wanted to be a moderator; that's a consequence of my work.

 

[Vigilo]

I love it when I see people in the Hub/on the forums who help out other people! It's great to see that community member take time to help other members, I really love to see that

 

[MCGamerzism | Gizm]

The community doesn't like it because let's be real here...some people hate tryhards, whether that is for mod or Sr.Mod or for anything they want. And people like the community that aren't watched constantly like the mods think they can say anything to the "mini-mods".

I don't see a problem with mini-modding, as long as they don't order a player to do something when they have no authority to (the person who is mini-modding).

 

[P3num6ra]

It ain't their job. They are trying to make the community better.

 

[Giggity69Goo]

The reason why we love mini-modders is because they take the role of doing something for us, even though they don't actually have to. Of course, haters are out there, but just ignore them and keep doing what you love to do

 

[Electrix]

The community doesn't realize it's for the greater good, and they're expecting people on the internet to be selfish idiots. So when somebody actually says something helpful or nice, they're "tryharding mod." Lol, I can't take it seriously when people say that.

 

[ImTheNarwhal]

I have no problem with people casually helping out the community, but when it gets to the formality in which they've pretty much just copied and pasted moderator quotes, I see a problem

 

[BaccaBoy1999]

It's dumb. It's one thing to tell someone to not break the rules, its another thing where they're doing it for the sake of making themselves look worthy of moderator. And you mini-mods, don't lie and say, "Oh, I just love this server blahblahnlah" We all know its because you want mod.

End of story.

Edit: Helping people who need it, and telling people to stop breaking rules could be or could not be perceived as mini-modding. When they're like answering every question and posting the links and stuff like that, it gets stupid. But say someone just asks for help, go ahead. You don't need to take the mods job, and you don't need to mini-mod to make yourself look good. As long as you can write a good interview (show your strongpoints) and be active, you will most likely get mod. Mini-modding is unnecessary, and just shows you are like everyone else and can't find their own way to the moderator position.

 

[Col_StaR]

I like Mini-Modding, since it does the minor aspects of a Mod's job thus allowing them to focus on the more major aspects of it. It saves us time and headache, and gives players the ability to contribute to something to the network.

Honestly, I have more of an issue with the people who automatically assume those who Mini-Mod are Tryhards. In the same way that complimenting someone of the opposite gender is OBVIOUSLY just an attempt to get laid, people seem to assume that people who are giving Mod-like responses OBVIOUSLY have an ulterior, self-serving motive. People just can't take compliments or helpful responses for what they are?

In my perspective, more people are being falsely accused of being Tryhards than there are actual Tryhards.
But why does it matter to anyone at all? It's your judgement of someone else's personality that causes you minor irritation; it's nothing to get worked up about: you'll face that on a daily basis when you all start working.