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On the subject of "Ping Abuse"

Dave | Rev

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Hey guys,

So Ingame I've seen the topic of something called Ping Abuse. Now I know that although someone who has <10ms in AU and i don't know <50ms on US, is annoying, it isn't the the persons fault.
It isn't the players fault that they have GodNet, they are just lucky (or in other words, have the NBN *AU)

So the meaning of this thread is if someone is "Ping Abusing", it really isn't "abusing". There is abuse, and then there is "abuse". Massive difference.
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Orthdntst

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I see what you mean, that term doesn't even make sense. How can you abuse something you can't control?!
 

TheRebelsEU

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It's barely an issue, surely a 10 ping gives you an advantage but sword fights are more influenced by the accuracy of your hits, your straving and your critical hits. I know this because I have played on servers on which I get low ping and servers on which I get normal/high ping, since I'm not that good with the sword, I can't see the 'OP advantage' that people are whining about. Honestly, I think it's just another excuse that people use when they get killed, just like stuff like: bowspammer, lagger, targeter, runner and so on.
 

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Yes ping matters but not so much. It's up to your skills. I take out 30-40ms players with my 120-130ms. Even if you have 1ms, you can't play if you haven't got a skill.
 

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This is what annoys me,people say "You ping abuse" and i'm like how is that so,all I have is good Internet -_-
 

Bredinabox

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In the end, players with more ping pay more :) (for the monthly plan)
 

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It's barely an issue, surely a 10 ping gives you an advantage but sword fights are more influenced by the accuracy of your hits, your straving and your critical hits. I know this because I have played on servers on which I get low ping and servers on which I get normal/high ping, since I'm not that good with the sword, I can't see the 'OP advantage' that people are whining about. Honestly, I think it's just another excuse that people use when they get killed, just like stuff like: bowspammer, lagger, targeter, runner and so on.
Oh really? I'll bet you have good ping yourself. It's so easy when you are on the wrecking side of things to think "they are just bad and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with that sword if they tried." But if someone has a reasonable amount of experience with swordfighting, they should be able to destroy an expert with bad ping.

This happens to me all the time. I go up to some random kid with a 1/100 ratio and leather armor and prepare to strafe his socks off. While I strafe around him quickly, he just stands there and gets massive combos on me and continues to slice me up while I am sprinting and jumping away from him. There are some games where I just know I will not win because there is a player with incredible ping just sitting at corn, and whenever I go to swordfight him, he seems to have a forcefield though he is not hacking. It is the worst in water, when I get directly underneath someone and they continue to get massive combos on me despite the fact that I am directly below him, clicking 8 times per second, pointing right at him, and getting a solid 60 fps. People with good ping also seem to be able to shoot me around corners, as if all they have to do is shoot where I was a second ago and it still counts. Don't even get me started on fishing rod, as I can only use mine every one or two seconds because when I scroll away from it it takes a bit to reel in, whereas most people don't have a delay at all. (This does not happen in single player.) Good ping does not only help with each individual weapons, it seems to give you insight into the future and it allows to see subtle details and subconsciously factor them into a bow shot or flint and steel placement. There is indeed "body language" which is so important when choosing how to combat a person.

I realize that you can get to the top of the leaderboards with bad ping, such as darkrai did, but his was not even that bad, and he had solid fps. If you rely on secondary weapons, you can get by with pretty bad ping, but that does not mean it is not a major disadvantage. The playing style differences between darkrai and Huahwi are startling, as Huahwi could just bull rush any team and massacre them, whereas darkrai seems to be much more tactical and careful. You just have to adjust to your ping.
 

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