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On the subject of "Ping Abuse"

DoFlamingo

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Oh really? I'll bet you have good ping yourself. It's so easy when you are on the wrecking side of things to think "they are just bad and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with that sword if they tried." But if someone has a reasonable amount of experience with swordfighting, they should be able to destroy an expert with bad ping.

This happens to me all the time. I go up to some random kid with a 1/100 ratio and leather armor and prepare to strafe his socks off. While I strafe around him quickly, he just stands there and gets massive combos on me and continues to slice me up while I am sprinting and jumping away from him. There are some games where I just know I will not win because there is a player with incredible ping just sitting at corn, and whenever I go to swordfight him, he seems to have a forcefield though he is not hacking. It is the worst in water, when I get directly underneath someone and they continue to get massive combos on me despite the fact that I am directly below him, clicking 8 times per second, pointing right at him, and getting a solid 60 fps. People with good ping also seem to be able to shoot me around corners, as if all they have to do is shoot where I was a second ago and it still counts. Don't even get me started on fishing rod, as I can only use mine every one or two seconds because when I scroll away from it it takes a bit to reel in, whereas most people don't have a delay at all. (This does not happen in single player.) Good ping does not only help with each individual weapons, it seems to give you insight into the future and it allows to see subtle details and subconsciously factor them into a bow shot or flint and steel placement. There is indeed "body language" which is so important when choosing how to combat a person.

I realize that you can get to the top of the leaderboards with bad ping, such as darkrai did, but his was not even that bad, and he had solid fps. If you rely on secondary weapons, you can get by with pretty bad ping, but that does not mean it is not a major disadvantage. The playing style differences between darkrai and Huahwi are startling, as Huahwi could just bull rush any team and massacre them, whereas darkrai seems to be much more tactical and careful. You just have to adjust to your ping.
Just want to say that I have 190+ ping to US servers and I have no problem at all winning games.
Since the new NoCheat its not hard as before to get hits on people even with bad ping.
 

average_name

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I get called a ping abuser on 200ms, on 120ms, and mostly on my regular ping (70ms). Sword accuracy+click speed+strafing=win. IMO the biggest disadvantage to bad ping is the delayed knockback, people can get 5 hits on you when you're trying to run away xD. With bad ping, I find myself doing better in turnarounds, idk.
 
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Ephiza

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I call them ping players. It means they can't win without their connection. So sick of people getting 4 block combo's on me since they get freaking 19 ping, while I'm sitting here with 70 ;-;
 

QualiaV2

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I call them ping players. It means they can't win without their connection. So sick of people getting 4 block combo's on me since they get freaking 19 ping, while I'm sitting here with 70 ;-;
They can't win without their connection? And how would you know that?
 

Mint_Sibs

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I get called a ping abuser yes ME I bet half of you get my ms while getting ddos. I get a 2 hit combo and all of a sudden their like omg fkn google fiber. Then when I use the bow they say bow spam, if I rod they say rod spammer, then they call me a hacker. Yes that's my life.
 
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Ephiza

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They can't win without their connection? And how would you know that?
Because I ask them to play on another server where they don't get 4 ping, and we get about equal ping (50 MS), and I complete demolish him/her repeatedly.
 

QualiaV2

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Because I ask them to play on another server where they don't get 4 ping, and we get about equal ping (50 MS), and I complete demolish him/her repeatedly.
That is not so believable. I'm sure it's happened but your reply seems to be solely for argument's sake.
I call them ping players. It means they can't win without their connection.
They likely do win, even on worse connections.
 
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Ephiza

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That is not so believable. I'm sure it's happened but your reply seems to be solely for argument's sake.

They likely do win, even on worse connections.
This happened. There was this really annoying kid (not naming names) who kept on saying, your bad. He kept on getting probably the most insane hits on me that are possible legit. Then, I ask to fight me on a server named Zincbox, where we both got 50 ping. I 10 hearted him once, then 7 hearted him 3 more times. This has happened on several occasions. Please don't try to defend people who definitely can barely win without a good connection.
 

QualiaV2

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This happened. There was this really annoying kid (not naming names) who kept on saying, your bad. He kept on getting probably the most insane hits on me that are possible legit. Then, I ask to fight me on a server named Zincbox, where we both got 50 ping. I 10 hearted him once, then 7 hearted him 3 more times. This has happened on several occasions. Please don't try to defend people who definitely can barely win without a good connection.
I'll defend them because your statement is a general one with little to support it.
 

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