What's the matter developers?

[Disingenuous]

Rather true, however the anti-cheat present on the MCGamer Network is certainly better than no NCP at all, right?

 

[Tenebrous]

True, they may be undetectable with anti-cheat but I find it pretty visibly detectable to see when somebody is toggling it in scrims or the like. We may not have the best anti-cheat out there, but until our developers can free up their schedules to work on improving ours even more, this is more than enough to act as a hold-over.t

You have no idea what triggerbot is...
Anyways theres also some other shady things that I'm not going to go into right now because I honestly don't understand them..

Here is archybot talking about his ncp:

After much playing around with hacked clients, we've figured out how they work. anticheat can now detect most forms of kill aura and force field automatically and reports it to moderators to investigate and ban. anticheat also detects a variety of click aimbots and clients (and sometimes it'll detect you just being logged in with a certain client, not even using the cheat functions of it because of how a lot of them work). Here's a list of common misconceptions before people even try to hide behind these defenses:
- The check accounts for lag, if you say lag in your appeal I will laugh my a** all the way to the deny section.
- I've already caught several well known people who have been suspected of toggling or using a ghost client. I watched someone stream today with a ghost client that we specifically tested with and detect.
- The way we detect these it is algorithmically IMPOSSIBLE from a code standpoint to set these off from a vanilla client. We tested 1.7.X all the way to current version just to make sure, and tested with 100+ people we know are clean.
- Mods have been asked not to ban the closet toggling cheaters so you have your chance to come clean in this thread.
- It's not that stupid invisible entity bulls**t that most anticheats use to detect kill aura as that's a f*cking joke method of doing it that can be bypassed by any hacked client with a brain and has more false positives then actual positives.
- Yes, I'm purposely leaving out core parts of how this works so it's harder to attempt to bypass
- No, I will not explain how it works anymore than what is in this thread.
- Extra point: The staff team has become scared of how anticheat is detecting "impossible" cheats.

 

[GETREAL99]

The anticheat on MCG is the worst I know. It used to stop speed and fly hackers, now the new, "better" anticheat XAC doesn't stop them.

Badlion has one of the best anticheats I know, it detects players' click patterns, and disallows killaura.

How is this possible, that a tiny server has better anticheat than one of the largest servers on Minecraft? What are the devs doing with their time on here?

We need to get more developers to work on the anticheat. Now, you may say that "MCGamer has higher standards, so not anyone can get in." Well obviously, standards aren't all in all as they have managed to get better anticheat than us.

Then you may say "The developers are busy", I ask: doing what? Better anticheat? Don't think so.

helo nd i luv this servers!

 

[GETREAL99]

The anticheat on MCG is the worst I know. It used to stop speed and fly hackers, now the new, "better" anticheat XAC doesn't stop them.

Badlion has one of the best anticheats I know, it detects players' click patterns, and disallows killaura.

How is this possible, that a tiny server has better anticheat than one of the largest servers on Minecraft? What are the devs doing with their time on here?

We need to get more developers to work on the anticheat. Now, you may say that "MCGamer has higher standards, so not anyone can get in." Well obviously, standards aren't all in all as they have managed to get better anticheat than us.

Then you may say "The developers are busy", I ask: doing what? Better anticheat? Don't think so.

helo nd i luv this servers!

MCSwish has better anticheat.
#doublepost

 

[Electrix]

You have no idea what triggerbot is...
Anyways theres also some other shady things that I'm not going to go into right now because I honestly don't understand them..

Here is archybot talking about his ncp:

After much playing around with hacked clients, we've figured out how they work. anticheat can now detect most forms of kill aura and force field automatically and reports it to moderators to investigate and ban. anticheat also detects a variety of click aimbots and clients (and sometimes it'll detect you just being logged in with a certain client, not even using the cheat functions of it because of how a lot of them work). Here's a list of common misconceptions before people even try to hide behind these defenses:
- The check accounts for lag, if you say lag in your appeal I will laugh my a** all the way to the deny section.
- I've already caught several well known people who have been suspected of toggling or using a ghost client. I watched someone stream today with a ghost client that we specifically tested with and detect.
- The way we detect these it is algorithmically IMPOSSIBLE from a code standpoint to set these off from a vanilla client. We tested 1.7.X all the way to current version just to make sure, and tested with 100+ people we know are clean.
- Mods have been asked not to ban the closet toggling cheaters so you have your chance to come clean in this thread.
- It's not that stupid invisible entity bulls**t that most anticheats use to detect kill aura as that's a f*cking joke method of doing it that can be bypassed by any hacked client with a brain and has more false positives then actual positives.
- Yes, I'm purposely leaving out core parts of how this works so it's harder to attempt to bypass
- No, I will not explain how it works anymore than what is in this thread.
- Extra point: The staff team has become scared of how anticheat is detecting "impossible" cheats.

Can you link that?

 

[Tenebrous]

MCSwish has better anticheat.
#doublepost

Can MCSwish's anti-cheat do this?

 

[Electrix]

MCSwish has better anticheat.
#doublepost

Do not double post, it is against the rules.

 

[GETREAL99]

Can MCSwish's anti-cheat do this?

Is dis h4x log or something.

 

[Hanyeol]

MCSG needs staff/developers that actually have knowledge of how illicit mods/clients work. I cringe whenever staff say something as stupid as "BSM allows you to sprint backwards!!!!!!!!!!"​

 

[Tenebrous]

Can you link that?

http://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/19004

 

[GhostOfQualia]

MCSwish has better anticheat.
#doublepost

Are you being sarcastic

 

[P3num6ra]

Badlion developers are so smart... I never see hackers anymore on Badlion.

- compared to MCSG... holy crap I see speed hackers and everything